You are so right. My approach,especially to the young ones, is to walk up and greet the handler and say. "How are you and your dog to-day" as I reach down and pet the animal. If I have an animal that is balking I walk away, have the handler set the dog up for exanunation. If the dog seems secure in that setting I try them again on the loose lead temperament test. If they pass I probably will not give them the class but I will not excuse them. Eyes and body moves tell you so much. It is what the dog does or does not do on the day of judging that tells the tale. I NEVER PUSH an animal with questionable temperament. This only stresses the animal further and also embarasses the handler and/or owner. There is nothing gained by this type judging. If you understand the standard there is no need to PUSH animals--they are either sound or they are not. Sandi Card ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurie Pruett" <pruett@xxxxxxxxx> To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 9:50 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Loose lead temperament test > >I saw every specials get a loose lead temp evaluation.......... >>AMY SAFDIR > > As did I. I thought all three judges correctly executed the test. No > stalking, no staring, no thumping the dogs, no hugging the dog. It was > refreshing to see. (Seems to me Carmen has modified his procedure from > the last time I saw him judge a national). If only all judges performed > the temperament test like this I wouldn't complain about this test being > done on impressionable puppies. > > Laurie > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the > original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or > FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the > original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY > MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS > PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY > FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL > BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org > ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================