[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Live Long and Prosper? NOT

  • From: "Penny & Bill" <Ketchy@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ELG440@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 12:39:11 -0500

Hi,
I have been in it for 30 years, just a few less than you.  What I heard from 
the pet people who called for a puppy 30 years ago was:  "My GSD just died of 
old age."  What I hear now is: "my GSD, who was 1 (2,3,4) just died of bloat, 
torsion, toxic gut, DM ".
I think the Veterans Class at the National is larger because more breeders know 
that John Q. Public would like to see our old guys--I know I do.  My favorite 
class at The National is the Parade of Greats, because I know they have made it 
and haven't succumbed to some of the genetic problems in our breed.
I am not tricked by what I hear.  I know that during the last 10 years I have 
bought pups and young adults from reputable and some not so reputable breeders. 
 From these I have  one whose ear didn't stand,various animals with hip and 
elbow problems, heart murmurs that DID NOT go away, Toxic Gut, pancreas 
problems, infertility in a 2 year old male--AND SO ON.  I know I am forgetting 
something.  What did I do?  I placed all those animals with loving 
families--and for the most part got replacements.  I must be a hard head not to 
have quit--I felt like it many times.
Breeding is a scary thing.  And from MY personal experience health issues are 
worse than they were 30 years ago.
Penny in NY

Penny & Bill
Landsend Kennels
Since 1974
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ELG440@xxxxxxx 
  To: Ketchy@xxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 12:09 PM
  Subject: Re: Live Long and Prosper? NOT


  In a message dated 12/5/2004 5:23:04 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
Ketchy@xxxxxxxxxx writes:
    We have "bred" ourselves into a corner, I believe.  There seem to be many 
more problems than solutions.  

  Having been in it 35 years or so, I can tell you they died a lot more thirty 
years ago, and younger. We have three fantastic dogs, Dragonslayer, Destiny and 
Dakota. They were all finished by 14 months, the males were dead by three years 
old, that was in 1983.

  We have lots of dogs living longer, but in the age of communication, we hear 
more about the ones dying. Look at the veterans class at the national, we used 
to have an entry of two or three, twenty years ago, and now we have divided it 
into groups to fit the entry.

  Don't be tricked by what you hear, look at the 13 club, talk to Fred, the 
Fords, Rinke, Tedi, Twyla, or those who are breeding. Yes, we do have problems 
and yes you do have to be careful the lines you use. But, like so many other 
things we continue to improve the breed, and longevity is one of the 
improvements. 


  Evan
  Asgard German Shepherds 
  http://www.asgardgsd.com/
  Where Type Movement and Temperament come together
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