Zoa......I may have missed your point...I went to her/his website and yes her dogs would perhaps not do too well in the conformation ring, and then again over the past 12 years neither have the majority of mine!....are you suggesting that just because she does not adopt the conformation standard that according to Dave ( the smartest MAN on this list)...only about .05 percent of all GSDs do?...should she/he be banned?...is she doing something bad/wrong just because "WE" disagree with her?...please explain...and I am not picking a fight with you( I have Kathy S, and Peggy for that) I admire your program ( breeding to Danny) just confused of the point you were trying to make with the reference to that website...Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zoa Rockenstein" <zrockenstein@xxxxxxxxx> To: "Show GSDList" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 10:29:08 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Link to site promoting non-standard gsds Kathy wants to know where she can get a blue.� VBG.� Some have said that dogs with faults "just happen" and that we should welcome them with open arms and be willing to award them the highest of PC accolades.� Well, sometimes they just happen, and sometimes they are intentionally bred.� Check out this site.� I hope you will take the time to give every page of it a thorough going over.� Is this the kind of thing we want to encourage with our inclusiveness?� Hey!� Big plus!� She sells breeding stock that go back to R-Man and Dallas!� Is this progress? � http://www.gaardog.com Dr. Zoa Rockenstein www.riverrockgermanshepherds.com� Home of Multiple Group Winner �GCH RiverRock's Hotel California (Callie) HSAs RN BN Group Winner Ch. RiverRock's Straight From The Heart HSAsd and the new kid RiverRock's One Fine Day ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011.  All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post.  This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org  SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================