What the heck was he jumping puppies for, and how does stringing up a puppy TEACH it to jump???? Hanging a puppy in the air, while repeating, cheerfully, "Swing your legs" would be the way to teach the "Swing" command, but, not the "Jump" command. JMHO. I have avoided Koehler's methods all my life; I have never had a high-scoring dog; I do have well-behaved dogs who would jump through fire & take a bullet for me. I LOVE living with them and I do believe that they feel the same way. Go figure. Paula, 116 days and counting ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Nancy Godwin <ngxotic@xxxxxxx> Subject: Koehler Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:28:44 -0700 When I was breeding dogs Koehler held a training class in Fontana, Ca. He was known as a NUT and ruined a couple of youngs dogs the owners took to his classes. Once he hung a puppy I had sold to a guy because he went around a jump instead of over it. The guy went and took his dog from the idiot and went home. As to digging dogs I had a few through the years and when we built our exercise areas all we did was pour cement about a foot deep at the base of the fences as we learned when dogs dig they dig right at the base of the fencing. Also we got a bunch of those round steel reinforcing rods and cut them about a foot and a half long and pounded them in the ground about a foot apart at any problem areas. These two things worked great. No way would I ever waterboard a dog, that is cruel and unnecessary. Can you imagine the dog knowing his beloved master would do this to him, trusting you like they do. Unbelievable. Nancy Godwin ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================