Yep, "trust" the Breeder! The size of your runs is right for our GSDs. I had seen so many 4' wide ones but due to our long body & tail, it is better to add the other foot so tails don't hit the sides. Broom coat is right so they won't slip but the idea of urine "seeping" into it and causing problems is incorrect. Especially if you use a soapy bleach combo for daily cleaning they'll be free of many germs etc. I always had extra runs and rotated kids to allow a "resting time" for each. Of course I did a lot of boarding and rescues and had 20 runs of the same configuration as yours, except one that was 15 X 15 for my whelping activities and that was great. They were 7' high with the fencing covering the top as well. They came out of a bldg. with 5' X 5' inside the bldg. with a gate in there as well as one on the outside and I have had people ask me many questions and a lot of folks copied my ideas since they did give the dogs a good & safe place to be. Oh, I miss it all so very much but know I'd not be able to do much in my old old yucko condition. I hope this helps. Norma no L ----- Original Message ----- From: <murfamx4@xxxxxxx> To: <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 8:33 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Kennel Runs We just had 3 - 20 X 5 kennel runs poured. The concrete was finished with a broom coat. (it is slightly rough) The man who did the concrete said it should be sealed because Cement is very porous and the urine will seep into the cement. I have talked to a breeder that I trust and she said not to because it will make it slippery when it is wet. What do the rest of you think. Thanks for Your in put. Glenn Murphy Shaden Shepherds ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================