Please, the discussion is worthwhile. But let's keep it non- specific. Naming names gets ME in hot water, if not you!!! <VBG> Truth. When I first started showing, mid 1990's, I was told to give my dog 1/2 a tube of some high calorie stuff (mind block on the name now, even) if she was going back in the group. I did once. I didn't see any difference in her laid back, easy going style, so didn't try it again. There.... confessions of a drugger. I saw a lot who now are reformed dog druggers do similar, too. Same with hair colorists. After awhile, we become virgins again. Storm ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================