First let me say I am not trying to start or add to a controversy.....we elected three judges to do the National and those judges put up the dogs and bitches that fit their interpretation of the standard...it is always dangerous to publicly ( and for me this is a semi-public list) comment on a dog or bitch that was overlooked in favor of another dog....innuendos are perceived whether or not the writer intended such......no one is going to be happy with 100% of a judge's placings...you show your support of a judge by showing under her or him, you show your lack of support by not showing under him or her!......judges make lots of tough decisions inside that ring!...and yes I do know some judges do have agendas.....and I heard some of the crowd give their reasons why "this" dog won or why "that" dog didn't...I also remember a judge that put up a dog out of his sire for GV.......and if that was the best dog that day, the judge did the right thing...all negative comments about th e three judges should remain private...and we do have a right to make negative comments, but not here!....Ed Hill ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================