Yes Jim I'm sure all judges know this. But I can guarrentee you that all judges try to treat everyone with respect. Unfotunitly it dosn't work both ways. It takes allot to be a judge and blow off the little coments that are said about you just loud enough so you can here them. I have never in almost 30 years in the sport heard a judge do this to some one to try to make them feel stupid. You Said (The names of the vast majority of judges who have earned respect should be known by all.) Are you going to make a list so they can be known by all. Heck no one can even agree on an illistrated standard let alone a list of what judges are honest or not. Every judge has earned my respect just by becoming a judge. Sure there are some judges that I wouldn't enter under. If you feel that there is a dishonest judge than just don't enter under them it's that easy. But to make a list for all to see in my opinion is crazy. I would be willing to bet there are more people fixing animals in one way or the other maybe a tooth a tail or trimming than there are corrupt judges. We can only judge what we have on the day and how it shows. We all wish we could make everyone happy but we can't. Sorry Randy Hamm President GSDCO One of the homes of 7 time BIS winner CH VONHAMM BEDKAR LEATHER AND LACE (STEVIE) And BISS winner CH VONHAMM BEDKAR SHE'S ALL MINE (MINE) Every exhibitor must be met equally. There can be no corruption of this sacred duty. If ever a duty demanded absolute integrity this is it. A judge must never be seduced by the powerful call of celebrity and power. A club has no greater job than to have a transparent process of choosing judges by an informed membership. The names of the vast majority of judges who have earned respect should be known by all. Avoid those with even a hint of controversy. Jim ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================