I also got that piece of mail today. My eye was drawn to the permit -- called an "indecia" in the printing/mailing industry. All permits are issued by the post office that is going to distribute the mailing. Some companies or organizations have a lot of prepaid mail and have their own permit numbers, and may deal directly with the post office. But when an organization, or even an individual person, wants to do a bulk mailing it's generally much more efficient (and far less aggravating) to have the printer/mailing house coordinate the postage & permits. The permit on the piece of mail being discussed originated in St. Paul, Minnesota. You can't just make up a permit number. And, the money for the mailing MUST be in the post office account BEFORE mail is sent out. The post office will not "front" the money. Neither will the printer. The post office has a very lengthy set of requirements for bulk mailing. Most are related to size & weight of each piece. The bar coding contains a lot of information that is picked up via a scanner as the individual pieces are processed through the postal system. I did a pretty good amount of mailings for clients when I was a commercial print buyer for an ad agency, and also when I was a print buyer for a private corporation. Whenever I had a mailing to work on, I always met with the printer prior to having artwork completed -- to confirm how each mailing had to be designed and laid out in order to qualify for the lowest possible bulk mailing rate. Or in plain English, I knew the rules, but the printer knew them better as they dealt with the post office all the time and for me, it was perhaps ten or twenty percent of my overall project load. And although I relied on experts at the various printers I worked with, the final signoff before a piece got printed was mine. If I missed a typographical error, or forgot to remove a line of type or add a line of type, it was my problem. Printers who run jobs without obtaining the buyers final approval tend to lose a lot of money, and clients, for such an oversight. I don't know where the Review is printed or mailed from, but I did receive mine a few days before others started to post that they did or did not get the August issue yet. I get mine regular bulk, I don't pay the extra for first class postage. Hope no one fell asleep during this brilliant, exciting post on how mailing permits work! My dogs did, and now I think I should join them. On a somewhat related note, one of my dogs covets envelopes - I had a few people over for dinner for a family birthday and Jovan took all the envelopes (gently, he acts like he's carrying an egg in his mouth) and stretched out on them. He likes colored envelopes. He just takes them and makes a pile. I have no idea WHY he does this, but it's pretty funny. Doesn't tear them or shred them, just collects them and guards them. Kelly Busse Wolfheart German Shepherds ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================