In a message dated 1/10/05 9:43:08 AM, PAGAIRS@xxxxxxx writes: << I've never had problems either with the bitches I've spayed when they were older. The bitch I have the problems with was spayed when she was 2...and developed dribbling of urine when she was about 6. Patty >> I agree with this. The one bitch I had problems with was my first GSD, a long coat that I showed in obedience. She was spayed at about 1 year old. All my other girls were spayed after they were too old to continue breeding - about 7 and they have not had the problem. My first one was put on DES and was fine. She even came off of it later in life and had no problems. Kay Springer www.showboatgsd.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================