[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: IMO...Iadmit a mistake & ACT
- From: Theresa-GSD Stolz-Scenecrest Farm <scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 12:42:46 -0800 (PST)
Excellent post Carolyn...
It seems what is important to one another disagrees. I see no positive
of wasting time to allow a DQ fault to be accepted now. The GSD
Standard was changed and put into place for a reason years ago.
What really has changed except to say give a inch take a mile.
Years ago white was looked as a undesirable fault today it
is accepted as so many breed for a white GSD. However,
anytime the AKC approves a GSD with a undesirable fault of
a off color there are those that will stretch that to register
a Panda-Piebald as a blue, black and tan, etc. with white markings.
Allowing the members of working dogs to be accepted would be a plus
as they come with the experience to know of what to look for in a stable
dog. It is all in a dogs eyes as fear and being insecure shows to those
that know what to look for and the working owners and trainers do.
I do believe there are too many that do not know that certain traits can
be hidden by a good handler at a Dog Show but not the case in a working
dog.
Theresa
On Tue, 2/25/14, Carolyn Martello <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
We've wasted a year or so trying to
encourage a DQ fault to be brought
into the Club.. as..not a DQ, and a couple of years adding
classes and
more classes for one of the actual Standard faults, and a
couple of years
of time and expense incorporating a whole other Futurity
Venue just for
those that do not want to be in a class with a Professional
handler ....
unless of course they WIN that Class...THEN they can HIRE a
Pro. Handler!
<G>
Why be concerned about a dog that is trained to do bite work
on command
AND CALLED OFF on COMMAND? Consider the
intense training and testing
these dogs and trainers go through?
Most of us at a dog show have seen the fear in the eyes of a
GSD that we
KNOW would attempt to bite the judge if the handler didn't
have 'cast iron'
hands. Consider...these hard working people that spend
HOURS and MILES
working to train their dogs should be ENCOURAGED to join the
GSDCA, Inc.
Possibly these same people can help research and possibly
work to help
develop a program that we can develop into one of the venues
at our
National.
Once many thought herding couldn't be
done. Now it has a life of its own
and has many MANY hard working people that herd with their
dogs, train their
dogs to herd..earn many Awards herding their dogs...AND...
they work their
tail off to put on a Herding Trial that is a big part of our
National and
our National Awards system. Often out in
the rain and elements...no
complaining...just a lot of hard work that involves lots of
space, pens,
sheep, hauling sheep, and other non competing trained dogs
to help...
The same has been going on for many many years with hard
working Obedience
people that work very hard to put on these Venue's at the
National.
The Conformation people spend their time in that venue....a
chosen few in
all three.
Seems to me we have room under the 'UMBRELLA' of this Club
to welcome and
bring IN the working dog people to try to "Bridge the Gap"
between them and
the show people.
It's time we worked together....or at least try to SEE if it
can be done.
I know the Board is busy and has their hands full...but all
this needs to be
considered at THIS TIME...with the problems we are having
with the WDA Org.
There IS NO EXPENSE to having these people join our
Club!
Their venue likely won't cost more than hauling in
sheep..renting ranch
facilities, etc.... or the building requirements for
Obedience.
I assume they would support their own venue...and could be a
few days before
our National much like Herding.
After all the effort to bring back the white breeders and
the extra classes
with long coats and set up a venue for exhibitors who don't
want to be in a
class with handlers...?? Why 'no' to
a highly trained working dog??
They could start small....maybe like hosting something like
a "Testing
Match"
the first year..small test for a small fee....so they could
see if they got
enough reaction and support from people with their dogs
wanting them tested
to see if they could even DO the work. Maybe host a
'training Seminar'.
Might be SURPRISED how many "show people" would test
the waters...<G>
It will take time...but first we have to decide to make the
effort and begin
some
dialogue with the WDA people....IF INDEED they really are
discouraged and
READY.
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.marhaven.com
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