what is going on are the handlers try to get there hands in these and make more money,it started out ok amat.now handlers getting involved,whats next.also given rom points make no sense.the red book is supporting the same dogs over and over again,the old red books had lots more info.dogs who produced 1 ch, or two,so you could see more different dogs who produce,not allways the same. the red book is not really a learning tools to see what other bloodlines produce.after many years I know now why so many people don't nom the litters it is not worth anything anymore. ----- Original Message ----- From: Joannie<mailto:gsdmum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx<mailto:Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx> ; marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 3:42 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: IMO, KUDOS ~Amateur class for 2015 Here's the overview of the Amateur classes as it was presented to the Board at the January meeting: The Amateur as a separate event will be eliminated. INSTEAD, there will be Amateur handled classes in the Regular futurity. The Amateur (handled) classes for each sex will be: Junior Futurity Amateur Handled for Junior & Teenage Futurity aged animals Senior Futurity Amateur Handled for Intermediate & Senior Futurity aged animals Junior Maturity Amateur Handled Senior Maturity Amateur Handled * Professionals (received compensation, rate card, etc.) cannot handle in the Amateur classes. An individual who trains and conditions dogs for others, may handle in the Amateur Classes if they are the breeder or in the family of the breeder of record of the dog being shown. * Anyone can handle the entry in the winners class (same as BBE in point show). * After winners, a Regional Best Amateur competition (must be handled by an amateur) will be held. Rosettes (no plaques) for Best & Best Opposite in each Amateur Futurity & Amateur Maturity. The winners will be entitled to show in the National Amateur finals. * Redbook points will be calculated for ALL classes. ________________________________ From: "Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx<mailto:Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx>" <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx<mailto:Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx>> To: marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; gsdmum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:gsdmum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: asgardgermshep@xxxxxxx<mailto:asgardgermshep@xxxxxxx>; JoKareGS@xxxxxxx<mailto:JoKareGS@xxxxxxx>; ltelfair@xxxxxxx<mailto:ltelfair@xxxxxxx>; kathypotter85@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:kathypotter85@xxxxxxxxx>; fk.fasano@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:fk.fasano@xxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 9:52 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: IMO, KUDOS ~Amateur class for 2015 Didn't I read y-day that a professional can take a dog/bitch back in for the equivalent of Winners? 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