In a message dated 1/19/2010 6:17:36 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, acara1997@xxxxxxx writes: He purchased Horand, after seeing him at a "dog show", (the perfect GSD in his eyes) and created the SV (circa 1899) shortly thereafter. Under the organization of the SV and Von Stephanitz's direction, the breeding efforts of Horand, his best progeny, and others would further shape the breed with greater focus on the development of the ultimate service dog... When I read Von Stephanitz's book it said he went to a dog show and was not satisfied with what he saw, so he bought some dogs to start his "new" breed. I will have to find that old issue and see what it said. I am not sure what breed Horand was. It certainly wasn't a Schuferhund, since they didn't exist at that time. Evan L. Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================