In a message dated 12/17/11 5:34:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, tanksr@xxxxxxxxx writes: I will have to humbly disagree with most of this, Evan, but I realize you have no experience with lines other than American.Just like any breeding with ANY pedigree you have to do your homework and study the background. Don't make the mistake of thinking you know the background. Ken is correct. I do not have any experience with lines from any other county. I seem to be doing just fine with our little breed here in America. I am mindfull of the line from Mark Twain. "People would worry less about what others think of them, if they only realized how seldom they did". I don't think about the German lines at all. I don't go to the Seiger shows, and I don't watch them. I seldom even go to the WDA shows here. I also agree with Ken, that you have to study and go with what you see yourself, not what you are told. I do wonder about dog that people say their entries are 1/8th German and you would never know it. If you never know it, or have bred out what the German breeding did, why even do it? I have not found myself in the postion after about fourty years of breeding, saying, I can't find a good dog in the American lines to breed to. When that happens, I guess I will look to outside sources. But, since I believe the breed continues to improve year after year, with the time I have left, and the limited breedings we do, I don't think I will need to go outside of the AKC to find a good stud dog, or brood bitch. I am not afraid to be ego-centristic, it works for me, and has done so in my involvement with the GSDs. If it ain't broken, why fix it? Evan Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================