I just wanted to thank everyone who participated in this little fun National trivia test I put to the List the other day. It was great and funny hearing all of your replies. A lot of people answered over the List and some in private. I think things like this is educational and we can all learn a little about the history of the breed this way. I know I learned some things. I wasn't there when it happened, but I don't know that I like the idea of putting a Best puppy over specials for GVX. I can't believe that a mature special dog couldn't beat a puppy. It's kind of insulting IMO for a puppy to beat a special at the National. At a regional Specialty show if that puppy is superior, even then it's pushing it, but you mean to tell me out of all the specials that are entered, not one of them can beat the puppy at a National? I'm not particularly fond of the idea, although you would certainly feel flattered, but the GV or GVX is supposed to be the best representative of the breed and I don't think a puppy is fully developed to carry that title yet. Only my opinion, but it didn't say too much for our finished champion bitches that year and I'm sure it didn't make the owner of the #2 Select bitch too happy. I don't think it's fair honoring a puppy with the most prestigious award at the National. Give him Best Puppy yes, but GV or GVX, I think that's a bit much. It's telling the other breeders, your champion bitches wasn't good enough to beat a puppy. OUCH! As usual OMHO, Barbara Galasso ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================