In a message dated 12/30/04 4:47:35 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, Peggygsd@xxxxxxx writes: I don't play handlers...never did and never will. When I judge I often don't know who won, and am surprised when I read the catalog or when the pictures are being taken. I remember on show where I put up a Junior handler, and never looked at the dog, I was judging the handler. When I did Breed I gave the Best of Breed to a beautiful bitch, and even put her over who was to become the Grand Victor that year. I never looked to see who was the handler. When I looked at the catalog, I had put up Debbie Kaser and Magic to Best Junior Handler, then to Best of Breed. I never looked at the handler when I was doing the breed. And had not looked at the bitch when I had judged the handler. I also lack the ability to know who the dog is. I know many judges remember dogs or even puppies they have judged years ago. I never do. At times I am told I put up a dog or bitch I had put up before, and it is always a surprise to me. Every now and then someone will let me know that I put up a puppy that finished, or that I put up again, and I am pleased it happens, but I can't remember who I put up, and I seldom recognize who an entry is. It is often a surprise to me what I do, probably no more so than to those who enter under me. Evan _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================