Actually I had a blue sable. He won a big puppy match under Bob Penny. He was beautiful and had a black nose. He just looked dusty. Maybe Bob thought I hadn't washed him. Evan -----Original Message----- From: Theresa-GSD Stolz <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Fri, Mar 20, 2015 1:42 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: White or rong "Dogs with noses not predominantly black" liver yes but sometimes hard to see in a blue as Hoobins gray boy comes to mind. http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=526073-hoobins-gray-boy. dark enough to appear black Not important though as they do not or need a separate breed but the White Shepherd breeders do. Theresa scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 3/20/15, Doc Zoe <wynsum@xxxxxxx> wrote: Sorry this is wrong Blue and Liver are a DQ by the line in our standard Must have a predominatly black nose. Neither Blues or Livers have a BLACK nose. Lives have a liver coloured nose and blues have a bluish coloured nose that is definitly NOT black Panda is not a colour, but a pattern which was properly stated as a varient of either sable or black and tan On 20 Mar 2015, at 12:29, Theresa-GSD Stolz wrote: Blues and livers are not a DQ can show if they chose so do not want their own register. Dr Zoe Backman http://wynsumgsd.com ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2015. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of both the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. POSTS CANNOT BE USED IN A COURT OF LAW. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION: http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ===========================================================================