Responsible breeders are not the issue in rescue. In fact once a breeder on this list saw a dog on our web site that they thought looked like their lines and within days had this 8 year old bitch back in their kennel. They had not seen her since sold as a puppy and the people who needed to re-home her did not contact the breeder just put her in rescue. Now, try contacting Joe Smith who had a litter of puppies so their children could witness birth and gave them away to anyone who would take them and say - hey a dog you bred is in rescue and they would say that is your problem. For the people who care about their breed and breed to produce more quality dogs to continue the breed as it is meant to be for years to come - to stop breeding because there are so many dogs in rescue will not help the problems our society has with dog numbers at all. All it would do if we all stopped breeding our dogs is to extinguish the GSDs that we know and love. I am not saying that well bred dogs do not find their way into rescue. I would guess 30% of the dogs we take in are well breed dogs of their respective breed. However, if the other 70% would go away the number of dogs euthanized would drop drastically. I do not have the answer to the problem. Many in rescue believe anti breeding and mandatory spay/neuter is the answer. It is if you want to extinguish dogs as we know them. I for one don't have any desire to see that happen. There is definitely a need for some sort of action to stop the mass killing of dogs that is necessary in today's society due to the sheer numbers of dogs in shelters. However, telling those who breed to better the breed - to not breed their dogs because of the rescue issue and the sick people who harm dogs is pointless. It would not stop this problem at all. I for one will continue to help in rescue because it is needed and not because I plan to breed dogs. I do not think we should hold responsible breeders accountable or make them feel guilty for breeding. I am confident that should any dog find it's way to us and the papers would indicate the dog was bred by a responsible breeder and I would contact them - that they would be more than happy to help with the dog in any way they could. That is what we as responsible breeders do. I do not expect that these same breeders help with your typical poorly bred, GSD produced in a non-responsible manner. However, over the years that I have been on this list whenever I brought a dog into rescue who needed help - this list came through. From Kris Kringle who needed hip surgery to the GSD puppy Mill where we took 40 dogs the people on this list have helped. I have posted rescues and had them find homes because one of the responsible breeders on this list shared the dogs info with someone they knew looking for a pet dog. To yell at this group of GSD breeders and enthusiasts is not needed...this is not where the problem lies. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================