Good post indeed, Lyn. I agree. Lee F. -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lyn Chernak Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 12:12 PM To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; wynsum@xxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: How does your club handle this? Since I just learned that this is not a Newbie I would say that there is a communication problem here. Instruct anyone that calls a judge prior to the election to address it as .... we will be holding an election for judges. I would like to nominate you for the slate. Would you be available if elected? the date of the assignment in question is ..... Then make it clear to the membership that a designated person will contact the elected judge. There are many times when you have a slate and the first three are not available. Lyn Chernak ~ CherLyn Shepherds ~ Three Generations ~ GSDCA 13 Club ~ Membership CherLyn's Dixie, BH, CDX, RAE, TC, HIC, CGC --- On Sat, 2/7/09, Doc Zoe <wynsum@xxxxxxx> wrote: From: Doc Zoe <wynsum@xxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] How does your club handle this? To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Saturday, February 7, 2009, 1:49 PM Lyn makes some excellent points - and I agree with her assessment Is there a procedure in place? Is this person a newbie who is clueless about the procedure? Is the person merely asking if the judge is available and the judges are assuming they are inquiring because they are representing the club? You need to speak calmly with the person, with out being accusatory and find out why they contaacted the judges. It could be innocent. let's not ask for a judge who is not available. Or it could be something else. before deciding what to do, assess the situation through proper channels. Have the person in charge of judges selection speak with the person. You could even thank them for trying to help but explain that things are not done in this manner. On 7 Feb 2009, at 10:19, Lyn Chernak wrote: Before you throw the member out, or discipline him/her in front of the entire membership (making a point out of their unapproved phone calls), take a positive approach. Find out if this person was contacting these judges to find out their availability so that he/she could nominate the judge for your slate. Thereby not nominating a judge that was not available. If this is the case your Board should set guide-lines as to how to nominate a judge or the steps to take or not take prior to the nomination. But these guide-lines should be done in a "General Statement " for the entire membership to follow, not just a chosen few. Or speak to this person one on one and explain the procedure. To do anything with negativity in front of the entire membership, with hurt you in a long run. It's a turn-off to many and they may not come back, it can chase a Novice person right out the door and for those that were thinking of volunteering for a position or future events Doc Zoe Wynsum http://wynsumgsd.com ===========================================================================P OST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. 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