In a message dated 9/18/12 3:56:44 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx writes: I guess it does not matter about dogs not being able to reproduce then as it's all about the winning. I understand what Joan and Morton are saying, and of course, they are right. However, I see my job as a judge inside the ring, to judge the dogs as they meet the standard. I leave the breeding up to those outside the ring, to learn and determine what is best for them. I don't expect the true breeder to only watch what I put up and use that for their breeding program. I expect them to look at everything in the ring, everything outside the ring, talk to the breeders, and see what is producing quality. Then the breeders should decide how to breed, not rely on what the judge does or doesn't do. I have watched some of the top breeders like Joan and Morton. I know they don't depend of the judges to tell them what to breed. They use that as a guide, but that is all it is. The show is a show, the pedigrees, the litters, the history and what is going on in a line is much more important than what a judge does. I have never felt any pressure to tell others how to breed dogs. Either outside or inside the ring. Evan L. Ginsburg gsyrfund.com Asgard German Shepherds _http://www.asgardgsd.com_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================