In a message dated 3/3/08 4:42:29 PM Pacific Standard Time, helen@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: Once again, according to the ROM Chair, regional futurity winners do not get ROM points. I do believe that the entires of progeny under an owner/judge of the sire or dam must be acknowledged as the problem of the owners. Or, some times the handler, and even possibly, not a problem. Think outside the box. Show honestly, judge honestly, don't worry about what others think, and be satisfied you did the right thing. That is my story and I am sticking to it. Those who disagree can just not show under me, or do so and take the same chance as anyone else. In truth, I am not smart enough to think who the owner is, and if I like that person; who the handler is, and what he/she did to me in the past; who the breeder is, and if they ever bred to one of my dogs; and who the dam is, and who bred her. Then if I had to consider who the stud dog was of the entry, and then try to see if the entry is draging his toes, and if he has a correct shoulder, back, color, temperament, and type, you might as well all go home, and call me in a month. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Evan Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================