1.Jane Doe is an Honest Judge 2.All Honest Judges are Good Judges conclusion: Therefore Jane Doe is a good judge. The above conclusion is Valid....but its not true... I'm starting to sound like Tom Langlitz..lol...some judges are honest but incompetent...and therefore they can get unfairly labeled as dis-honest...I could not be a GSD dog judge right now..not because I am not honest, but because I am not competent...I have shown under what I believe to be incompetent judges ( there are lots of ways to be incompetent) I have shown under judges that have certain dog biases (we all do folks)..I have shown under judges that I thought had an agenda...nice word for dis-honest...I now no longer show under judges that I believe have agendas...I will shown under incompetent judges If I believe they have improved.....two judges whom I will not name..one said "when I judge I have no friends...and I have no enemies"...the other judge said...."when I judge only three folks will be happy....winners dog, winners, bitch and Best of breed...but I'm not there to make people happy...Im there to judge dogs".....on second thought I will name those two judges....One is Gary S. and the other is Max Thompson..there are some folks on this list who I believe would be honest judges..I think sometimes it takes time to be good..it does not take any time to be honest...Ed Hill ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================