In a message dated 9/4/2010 8:07:50 A.M. Central Daylight Time, ketchy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: I've learned through the years that OFA certification is not the 'be- all and end all" of breeding. Case in point: We bred Jeenellyn's Sunyab, CDX, OFA EXCELLENT to 2 stud dogs who were OFA certified. In EVERY litter there were dysplastic puppies. Obviously she was a CARRIER for hip dysplasia! Like Paula said--the baby and the bath water. . . Penny in NC ========================================== Not only that Penny, I have always been suspicious of dogs that have one excellent hip and the other is a bit iffy. Definitely don't through this away. Have tracked several of animals with this and asked questions, and frequently find out this pup may have been a breach pup (for those wonderful breeders that keep such accurate records). When you help a bitch that cannot get a breach pup out and you have to do a little pulling....don't you think you could be doing just enough that it could pull too much on one side and slightly displace one hip? Had this discussion with Barb Wms years back and she did agree with me. I bred a bitch that had one excellent hip the other hip was just slightly over the round and would not certify. She had a litter of 8 and of the 4 that were xrayed, all were OVC certified. Molly Trillia German Shepherds since 1972 PH 409-287-3940 Member GSDCA, GSDCC, GSDC of Beaumont (recording secretary), Life Member CKC "Experience is a wonderful thing. It enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again." NOTICE: This e-mail is confidential and intended for the exclusive use of the addressee. Any other person is strictly prohibited from disclosing, distributing or reproducing it. If you have received this e-mail by mistake, please notify us immediately by telephone or e-mail and delete all copies. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================