Duhhhh!!!!!! I need glasses, he's 2. So at this point he can only show in young dog. He's still KKL2, A3 and other stuff. Going to get more coffee to open eyes...Thanks for correcting me. Rach From: ORSuite@xxxxxxx To: gsdk9rat@xxxxxxxx ; Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Has anyone seen this German Dog?/age In a message dated 12/26/2004 10:46:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, gsdk9rat@xxxxxxxx writes: He is also almost 4, with only an IPO1 and no progeny of record, but someone will buy him. ************************************************************* If this dog is the same we are looking at, he is only 2 yrs old, not 4. He was born in Dec of 2002. This can also explain his lack of depth of chest and body, which he could acquire at about 4 yrs old. I have a Natz Steigerhof son and, boy, he was pretty scary at 3, when I got him. I can understand a lot of reason for someone wondering about him for sale as I , too, would probably not consider him myself. At age 2, he could very well not fit the age bracket for further titles. Now, at age 2 he can begin to "qualify" to compete for higher levels of his titles. This came about quite a few yrs ago(about 8-10) when the thought was not to "burn out" a dog through rigorous training during developmental stages of mind and body. He was qualified, in age, to receive a Level 1(IPOor SchH) under that age of 2 but not before 15 months. So, you could be very right when you say those titles of SG were probably done under that age of 24 months. What types of shows, is another matter--local, regional, world, etc. Since he JUST turned 2, he probably hasn't ben shown in an adult class yet. Chris K "Do Right and Fear No One" --from the Stephanitz Family Crest ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================