Hi Doris, Well I expect you'd probably think I would be "pro bonus" etc.since I am an all breed handler. But thats not the case.. in fact, I quit "charging" bonuses as I had an eye opening experience. I had a very good standard schnauzer and a client that was a teacher (she's now deceased). I started specialing her dog and it was a group placement here and a group place ment there... then one weekend we had a GREAT weekend.. wona specialty and took 3 group I's WOW was I on a roll! Thinking nothing of it, charged her the bonuses for Group I and specialty best of breeds and went on my way. She called when she got her billing that month and said that she appreciated all the work I done but she could no longer afford to have good month. She then said that she knows it was hard work and dedication, but that was an additional 700$ out of the pot and that she had some bonuses in mind for me. Well I thought long and hard about it. I also went to a nice BarBeQue resturaunt to celebrate the good weekend with 4 of my friends..(. it was one of those "If you have parties of 5 and over... you will be charged 20% gratuity"). Usually, I dont care, but my server was TERRIBLE, didnt care if we had silverware, didnt check back, my food was served cold, and so on.. and at the end.. he EXPECTED the 20% of the large bill.. HECK NO!!! (thats when it hit me about the bonuses are extra, above and beyond). SO now, regardless if the client is a teacher or 3rd generation old money, I dont expect a bonus when I win a group or best in show. Also my horse trainers never charged a bonus for a championship or going first in a new class.. I gave them though because they did a super job! It was time for me to practice what i preached.. ! Mike ====================== www.BlackHawk-Farms.com Northern California American Saddlebred Horse Association Vice President (Class of 2007) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================