Never post before coffee....never....LOL my correction........long coats are not a >> DQ fault <<.... they are a fault, as our standard reads today. so are unlevel toplines, dogs with a tail hooked to the side, and speaking strictly coats, coats that are soft, silky, too long outer coat or wooly, curly or open coat. One reason I always shake my head when people over condition their dogs coat when grooming, so the judge can feel a soft coat???? <G> Anyway, long coated dogs are not a DQ, they are, however, listed as a fault. Not a VERY SERIOUS fault (incorrect temperament, faults of gait whether from the side, front or rear). Nor SERIOUS fault (ankylosis, tail too short, missing teeth other than the first premolars, pale, washed out colors and blues and livers). Truth is, if you have 2 dogs, one regular coated dog that drags its rear, or whose feet cross over, and you have a long coat that moves as the standard requires, all other things equal, you MUST chose the long coat over the regular coat, as the coat fault is minor compared to the very serious fault of movement of the regular coated dog. If you are judging dogs to the standard, that is. However, how do we then justify the teachings that say a GSD must look like a GSD, behave like a GSD and move like a GSD? This is one of those time where we cant have it both ways. Can we? The bottom line seems to be that TODAY, as we are, long coated dogs can enter any show, they dont need a special class. This communication probably will serve that purpose, encourage people with beautiful, correct in every other way, long coated GSD to enter shows. More entries, more money. * Ileana * Love me, love my dogs. In a message dated 6/20/2012 8:18:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, inquestgsd@xxxxxxx writes: My only question is: why a different class? They are not a (DQ) fault nor are they a variety. Seems to me the long coats should just enter any class they qualify for. Or is this too simple?? Ileana Sent from my iPhone ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================