Oh! Carolyn, if you were near me I would hug you. So many of our dogs have become so co-dependent on their owner, they have no life as a German Shepherd. If we have a problem we need to look in the mirror. On the other hand, I don't care for the observer program either. Randy C. In a message dated 5/4/2011 6:10:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time, marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: WOW!!! And we think the dog isn't smart enough to learn to stand for an exam and go around the ring in a circle for us......or that two shows in one day is too hard on them. <G> I think we've discovered the problem..............it is US!! { :o) Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.Marhaven.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================