[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: GSDCA National Herding Trial

  • From: Ruth Scheubler <rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: DaList <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 07:57:07 -0700 (PDT)

It is humbling - the most humbling dog training experience I have ever had. The 
dog just understands so much better. It sure teaches you a lot about teamwork.

I forgot about the tests - normal PT runs should not be a problem if the dog 
has had any kind of work. For HT you just need a dog with a some control or a 
good handler and you should be able to do it without much, if any, prep. It was 
an all-breed trial so we don't even know how many of them were GSDs. Hopefully 
they had some test level sheep and were not running trial sheep.

Ruth



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From: "Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx" <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx>
To: rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 7:42 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: GSDCA National Herding Trial

Yes, I agree.

I wondered about the tested runs too...none at all in PT?  (I always  found 
PT easier, using the fence as a guide, who knows?)  And low for HT,  but 
perhaps first trials for some teams?  Or maybe the sheep weren't used  to "big 
hairy dogs" and scattered?????  So would be interested to  hear....

I will say herding has always been one of the most humbling things I have  
found to do with a dog <G>.  My personal learning curve on how to  read 
sheep was just awful! 

Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
Celebrating generations  of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/)  


In a message dated 9/26/2011 10:16:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx writes:

I would  love to hear about the trialss also.
No Q's in B is not surprising as that  is the most border-collie style 
course and while a GSD can work it, it is not  as easy with an upright dog who 
naturally works close to the stock rather than  a low running speed burner 
who works well off the stock. 


No Q's on  C is what I would like to know about. Where those sheep a flock 
or a  collection of sheep put together for the run? I don't know who trialed 
so I do  not know how well they work, but that 30-45 min Advanced C run can 
be  incredibly challenging if those sheep were used in small groups on B or 
A  previously and then moved to C a few days before. It makes it an 
interesting  training challenge when practicing for a few hours but not so good 
for 
trail  day. But I am speculating and not talking from any info from the 
trial. I  would assume that if the dogs and handlers are experienced, a couple 
of trials  used as practice with the flock will make them all work better on 
the GSD only  day.

I saw Reserve came off Advanced A and it is good to see those  dogs/sheep 
are working well. Not surprising that HIT came out of Started as  the 
difference in difficulty between Started and Advanced is very high, and a  well 
trained and handled started dog has a bit of an edge. But that dog does  have 
to be well trained and handled - it is not a  gift.

Ruth



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From:  "Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx" <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx>
To:  Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 6:53  AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] GSDCA National Herding Trial

Looking at  the results, there are an incredibly low number of  qualifiers. 
  
Would love to hear about the conditions from any of the   participants.  

We had:

3 of 8 (shown) qualify in  HT
ZERO out of 8 shown in PT
1 of 5 in Started
ZERO qualify in  Intermediate
3 of 9 in Advanced and then NO qualifiers on either B or C  course.   Huh?

The dogs and handlers who did qualify...huge  congrats for success!!!!  
Just wondering what the heck  happened?  



Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
Celebrating  generations  of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
visit  _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/)  



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