In a message dated 3/7/2007 11:02:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, gsdlady28@xxxxxxx writes: go to www.gsdca.org and go to the illustrated standard...illustration #5 is the "ideal shoulder" Maggie Marshall Yes, and who was it, Fred (?) that speaks about putting tape (white adhesive?) on the bones that make up the shoulder then watching the dog move so that you can more easily the interplay and function of the bones that make up the shoulder? That always sounded like a good idea to me. Uncle Ed has a wooden dog he made too, for presentations, and it's fun to change the layback on it (pegs I think) and see what impact that has on reach. Kathy member GSDCA, DVGSDC three generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions live here! visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================