#yiv1809967354 v\:* {} #yiv1809967354 v\:* { } #yiv1809967354 v\:* { } Ohio and Utah will have instinct on site. Actually, Ohio and Utah could both do it all except C course but it is up to the herding chair. They both also have a great facility near the show site. Joan -------Original Message------- From: Zoa Rockenstein Date: 10/1/2008 10:10:52 PM To: EJDegen@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: more on national sites & news on Herding Instinct I think this is a real shame, too, and a serious mistake. I drove my dog to Colorado from MN last year just to enter her in the Herding Instinct Test because it was at the show site. She was not entered in anything else. Once she finished her championship, we got involved in herding because of that experience in the Instinct Test at the National. Now, we are ready to compete for HT. But, I am not going to fly her to Houston, then drive to Dallas, then drive to Beaumont and back to Houston. No way! And, I'm real disappointed about that. At the same time, I really want to do the tending and appreciate the attention given to finding a site where tending could be accommodated. But, if it's so inconvenient to get to and from....Well, I'm sure there will be plenty of people who will enter. I just won't be one of them. It's just too much travel time for me. If I was going just for herding, it would be fine. I would just go to Dallas and go home. I hope we don't make this mistake again in the future. Zoa Dr. Zoa Rockenstein www.riverrockshepherds.com ----- Original Message ---- From: "EJDegen@xxxxxxx" <EJDegen@xxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2008 8:39:58 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] more on national sites & news on Herding Instinct I understand and appreciate all of the hard work that goes in to choosing a site for our national. We all know that there is NO "perfect" place. But I think a site needs to be chosen that is CLOSEST to "perfect" that we can get while realizing that in some things we will have to compromise. The point is that we shouldn't compromise in the majority of things. AND, with each compromise, the site needs to have benefits that will greatly outweigh the drawbacks and make it worth the compromises. There are some things, though, that I think are "non-negotiable" as a club with the most versatile breed. Instinct testing should ALWAYS be available on the show site. Working Dog Sport, Herding & Tracking should be as close as possible to the showsite, under an hour is preferable...the further these are from the showsite, the more the showsite should go down in "rankings". Obedience & Rally should be onsite. Agility should be indoors on dirt, grass, or indoor soccer "turf"...NOT mats over concrete and definitely not outdoors without cover. As I was typing this, someone forwarded me the Premium....it says that there will be no Instinct Testing at Beamont. That is a real shame. According to Nanci's column in the September Review, there were to be 2 trials with 2 different judges which would enable people to earn the AKC HIC certificate in one day. Even if we just did the one test like we have in the past, MANY MANY people enjoy participating in or just observing the instinct testing and it encourages people to try herding. I know of many "show" dogs that have gone on to herding because of the Instinct test that they did at the national. What a shame not to have this event at all this year! I wasn't going to participate - the only dog I'm taking is actually working on his Herding Intermediate title...so *I* personally am not inconvenienced, I just hate to see the national not have instinct testing at the showsite. Does anyone know WHY the Instinct testing was cancelled? 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