[ SHOWGSD-L ] Fw: Re: I have been unjustly slandered on another list
- From: "Mary-Anne" <versatilegsds@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "ShowGSD-l" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:50:29 -0500
I don't mind working dog folks (being one myself to a point). And I don't
really give a darn anymore if you side with the American Lines, the German
Lines or the Sidelines. As far as I'm concerned, you don't 'dis' people you
don't know. If you promote yourselves as gurus, be prepared to back up your
statements with fact - not just blow everyone else away with innuendo and
attacks. I have been on this list for a couple of years now and have
learned much, have met or 'met' some extremely interesting people. None of
them have dis'd me for asking 'stupid' questions nor have any of them ever
commented on the fact that neither of my dogs has any degree of angulation
whatsoever. Everyone here (even the ones who agree to disagree) gives an
opinion and allows the others to have their opinions also. If we all
agreed, this list would be so boooorrrring. I really am disgusted that an
'opinion' is given as fact - real working dogs and their owners don't have
time for this kind of stupidity. And Rebecca, if you're a puppy miller then
I own Molson's. Both are ridiculous statements and neither of them are
true. However, if the people who own Molson's wish to adopt me, I'm
available <grin>.
Mary-Anne
who wishes that she could title a dog at both ends but is working steadily
on the back end <grin>.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Amy Greenhut" <genoaktortoise@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <barbara17236@xxxxxxx>
Cc: <pbgs@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 10:21 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: I have been unjustly slandered on another list
I looked on the front page of their Yahoo group and it says do not be
surprised if we question your breeding if your dogs are not titled. They
sound like working dog people and not very nice people either!
Amy Greenhut
Justrock German Shepherds
Gen Oak Leopard Tortoises & Â Tortoise Rescue
Behold The Turtle, Â He Makes Progress Only When He Sticks His Neck Out
A Quote By James B. Conant
----- Original Message -----
From: barbara17236@xxxxxxx
To: pbgs@xxxxxxxxxxxx, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 8:42:11 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: I have been unjustly slandered on another list
I use to belong to that list. Â They really hate "conformation" breeders, so
their attack on you doesn't surprise me. Â They think every GSD should be
working titled before being considered for breeding. Â
Once, when it was pointed out that some of them do not have OFA clearances
on elbows, they defended themselves by claiming a dog couldn't do all the
physical aspects of a true working title if they had bad  elbows.
Barb H
-----Original Message-----
From: Rebecca Little <pbgs@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: freelist <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:37 pm
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] I have been unjustly slandered on another list
Earlier today I joined this list
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/German_Shepherd_Dogs/
pon joining I introduced myself, my daughter, and my dogs each with their
itles, OFAs, and reg names. I was then accused of " misrepresenting OFA
ertifications" which is an out and out LIE! Here are links to every one of
my
ogs OFA certs that are old enough to have certs
http://offa.org/display.html?appnum55053#animal
ttp://offa.org/display.html?appnum32829#animal
ttp://offa.org/display.html?appnum57611#animal
ttp://offa.org/display.html?appnum69248#animal
ttp://offa.org/display.html?appnum46144#animal
ttp://offa.org/display.html?appnum87637#animal
 was then removed from the list but that was not the final insult..they
seemed
o have forgotten that when you remove someone they will still get mail for a
ime.
 was accused of "actively breeding away like crazy" well lets see here are
the
ates of my litters for last year and this year 06/20/2009 2 pups and
10/15/2009
 pups, the year prior I had  litters as well, this year I have had 1
litter
orn on 1/1/10 of 10 pups and have one more on the way.
hen there was this lovely statement by the same person
And she is breeding a long coat but says she's breeding for show? Â I
believe
hey are banned from AKC, too, correct me if I'm wrong. Â Anyway, breeding
for
how and pets isn't what the GSD is about. Â This is a working breed and work
bility has to be proofed."
ow in no way is a coated GSD banned and this woman is too stupid to know
that
ts a recessive gene and my coat was bred to a dog that did not carry for
coat.
ut that does not mean that all the people on that list know that so I am
arnished.
Then there is this statement "On her website it mentions her pups can work.
Â
hat gave her that idea since she has many, many generations of untitled (in
any
ork) parents? Â One of the offspring is shown photographed in a harness!! Â
hat's not enough. Â "
Well I have many many obedience titled pups, some that do agility and
tracking
oo. And last I looked at my pedigrees there were some dogs titled in
ork.....do any of these count 2X VA Can Sel Am CH Jim vom Fiemereck SchH3 TC
OM KKL1a Life OFA, V Häsel vom Fiemereck SchH3 IP2 KKL1a, VA Max della
Loggia
ei Mercanti SchH3 KKL1a; Can SGR VA CH Hillo De Marne La Valle SchH 3 KKL1a;
I
nly used the dogs with SchH titles since she feels that any other title is
orthless apparently.
Then when this is added my blood boils "When people come here to sell list
ember puppies, pretending they're responsible breeders with all the big talk
(
e should all know who she is, after all, right???) Â to distract those who
don't
nderstand how these things work from the facts and they're really
isrepresenting their puppy products as quality when they're not is
disgusting!"
n NO way have I EVER misrepresented ANYTHING about my dogs or pups! I think
its
weful that I could be attacked and then not even allowed to defend myself.
How
s that right? The list in question has over 2,000 people on it that have
seen
y name and my dogs drug through the mud for no reason other then that I
breed
how lines not working lines(thats what I feel is the real reason for the
ttack). I feel that this sort of thing being seen by a novice that does not
now to look on OFA and see for them selves or one that does not know that
long
oat is not "banned" or that could be lulled into thinking I breed poor
quality
ould ruin my reputation. Then there is the "come here to sell pups"
ine...maybe they should have not been so worried about me selling pups on
that
ist...I only have 1 pup available out of my litter of 10 and I am holding
him
or the right show home and likely never to be found on a list like theirs. I
ave a long line of happy puppy owners who have come t
o me for the simple reason that they want a good dog. This is a SAD day for
me
hat I have been so unjustly slandered on a public forum. Â There is nothing
that
s right about any of it!
 have felt the need to post this here as I am sure some have seen the lies
and
aybe the truth will now be seen!
ebecca Little
eakes Brook German Shepherds
ttp://www.peakesbrookshepherds.com/
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