> There was one club here in the West that would name the "Pacific Coast > Victor" every year. I want to say it was the San Diego club, but I'm not > sure. Doris > ***************************************************** > > With all the talk of The National and where it should (or shouldn't) be, > it jogged my memory a little. If I remember correctly, Ch. Caralon's > Phantom v Lebarland (a great BLACK dog in MHO) was Pacific Victor one year > (way back when). Was this a separate entity from The National? Was there > ever an Atlantic Victor? (I am NOT being facetious--I just want to know > how it all came about.) Thanks in advance. >> Penny in NY >> Penny & Bill >> Landsend Kennels >> Since 1974 > > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================