One other thought would be to start the Futurity Finals on Wednesday at 8 A.M. but rather than use the National judges use a breeder to judge the finals. Lee Brown I like this idea. Also, of concern to some handlers is the long day this would make for them, wear and tear on the body, stressed joints, etc. Why not make it a Futurity for handlers, also? No one who has been handling professionally (Juniors doesn't count) for more than 5 years could handle in a regional or national futurity or maturity. This would encourage and support new handlers and reduce the wear and tear on more "mature" <G> handlers at the National. There have been instances at the National of handlers breaking down, injuring themselves, falling, etc., very possibly due to stress on joints and muscles, and to shear fatigue. Yes, I KNOW, the unpopular part of this is the money $$$$$$ the present handlers would lose, but we must start somewhere making room for the next generation and some handlers out there are not getting any younger!! This would address two concerns: the physical stress on older handlers and the real need to encourage new handlers. It would also put all exhibitors in the same position of hiring newer handlers. Sharon CODA GERMAN SHEPHERDS ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================