reminds me of the time 40 years ago when Reggie Jackson and the World Champion Oakland A's of 1972 were getting off the bus to play a game in Anaheim Stadium a lady asked Reggie why his "friends" didn't look happy getting off the bus....Reggie stated..."Mame, we're the Oakland A's...there ARE no friends on this bus".......... we are so competitive with each other with our ideas ,views and dogs at times we ( me included) lose perspective of what the whole thing is all about....White dogs, ROM changes, the National locations, members dropping out......those aren't problems.....turn on the evening news.......now there's a place to see problems........I see Ms. Martello's point of view very clearly......if I'm not mistaken she and others believe in the standard as it is to keep the current "strong" colors...they are not claiming that white dogs are a genetic problem......as a club WE establish the standard.....based on what ever we believe it should be....I for one would hate the white dogs to some how leave the breed....I'm proud of all healthy excellent temperamented GSDs  don't care what color they are...FB  ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stormy V. Hope" <stormy435@ gmail .com> To: "List List" < showgsd -l@ freelists .org> Sent: Friday, August 9, 2013 4:44:49 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: For the Record Let's ALL start ramping it back and remember that politeness and respect encourage dialogue .  Just a reminder, folks.  I don't remember having to remind listers this much in a coon's age! Stormy Hope too busy to put on the ADMIN hat, so be nice, so I can fight PUPS and other anti-dog legislation, please. Stormy V. Hope https :// www . facebook .com/ GSDCA . LegislationAwareness https :// www . facebook .com/ CaRPOC . CaliforniaResponsiblePetOwnersCoalition ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012.  All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post.  This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@ showgsd .org VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http :// showgsd .org  SUBSCRIPTION: http :// showgsd .org/mail. html NATIONAL BLOG - http :// gsdnational . blogspot .com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================