Unfortunately you are the mercy of whatever person is at the counter. Case in point last year, flew from ATL to Newark no issue with the dog in a 500 crate ( I had 2 shepherds, one wheaten, one kerry and one norfolk). Person at the counter in ATL was fine, explained that the shepherds ears were erect but he could comfortably lie down, turn around and the like.. No issue in ATL... Coming home? A HELLISH NIGHTMARE. Kerry was fine in the 300 crate, Wheaten was fine in the 300 crate, Yankee was fine in his 100 crate, (and its too small for him but he was on the plane under the seat). The Delta person in Newark would NOT let the two shepherds on the flight because the crate was too small. (They were both in 500s). I ended up having to SHIP the dogs in two brand new 700 crates back to ATL. I even threw a "princess fit" and had them call ATL. The dog was perfectly fine to fly on wednesday, but wasnt fine on Monday in the same crate..what gives? Its the ears. if the ears can touch the crate, they say its TOO SMALL. Now, I always go in a much larger crate than I need and I keep an "what if" broken down in the Van. Mike Lynch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Martello" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: InquestGSD@xxxxxxx, WITMS@xxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 3:46:20 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Flying with Dogs Cargo is just the Dept. where the animals are shipped.......they all go in with Cargo in the plane unless they are a 'pocket puppy'........? I can't see DEXTER fitting under ANY seat.......... <G> Either way......at this point in time Continental is the only Airline that I know of that makes you pay FULL price for the dog to fly WITH you. All the others fly them as excess baggage WITH you. IF you ship the dog alone.....you take it to Cargo and pay a bigger price. IF the dog flies with you it goes through theTerminal with you you and priced as excess baggage. ( except Continental ) The area has nothing to do with the price. With you...excess baggage. Alone...by the weight & size. Typically price is anywhere from $100. to $250 as per that airline's excess baggage fees. Flying the dog alone.....upward of $400 and $500......which is what Continental charges no matter what. We have flown with some big dogs and never had to use a # 700 crate yet. Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.Marhaven.com ----- Original Message ----- From: InquestGSD@xxxxxxx To: WITMS@xxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 1:10 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Delta Airlines Flying with Dogs In a message dated 5/19/2010 11:38:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, WITMS@xxxxxxx writes: Anyone fly with a dog recently? I can get a direct flight both ways to Salt Lake. I'm planning on bringing a very large dog. Their website says if the dog is in a 700. they have to go cargo? If I put this dog in a 500 are they going to refuse?? I know a lot depends on who is behind the counter. haven't flown with a dog on Delta for a number of years. I have been using United.. TIA Susie We flew two dogs last week, one in a 400 and one in a 200, fully expecting to get some issues with the 400 crate........not only did we not have any problems, the staff at American Airlines went out of their way to make sure we knew the dogs were ok, boarded, happy, etc. There was a family traveling with two Giant Schnauzers in 500 crates, they got exactly the same treatment we did. It was such a good experience, I wrote to AA to let them know how happy we were. All four dogs were checked in as excess baggage, not cargo. But we made sure to be there extra early. Hope this helps. Ileana ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. 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