Maybe we could change the standard to judge on age. The oldest dogs would win the show, then we could all breed for longevity. I pose a question. If we breed each litter to improve the breed, and each breeding is to better the offspring, what is the sense of using frozen sperm from 30 years ago? We just tried to have a Stars and Stripes litter. It didn't take, but shouldn't we use current males if we have been improving the breed? Then we come to the post that said years ago she improved by breeding to a German male, and feels it would be important now to out-cross to a German dog. What reasoning do we have to think a German dog today is as good as a German dog was 30 years ago? Have they eliminated problems while we haven't? I don't have answers, but I do have a lot of questions. Evan L. Ginsburg gsyrfund.com Asgard German Shepherds _http://www.asgardgsd.com_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) Where Type Movement and Temperament come together In a message dated 6/28/13 11:08:17 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: There was a person on the list yesterday that said until health is the number one reason to breed and improve our bred we will continue to have problems. I said pretty much the same thing a week or so ago. I ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================