I did it once quite a few years ago, on a handlers advice. He wanted to see the dog drop a pound overnight to emphasize the dog's tuck-up, and it did, but it didn't make any difference in the show the next day. The dog's attitude was "Heck, no, I won't show!" so it didn't matter that the fasting DID cause him to lose a little water weight (I assume it was water weight -- he wasn't fat, and "crash" diets just make you lose water.) I don't think the fasting had anything to do with his decision to act like a doofus in the ring, he was known to behave perfectly well for a new or different handler in practice, but once in the ring, anything went. It was his way. All my males have had the tendency to bring up yellow liquid (acid maybe)? If they don't get fed at regular intervals so I personally would not be inclined to do this. If I'm not able to feed them their meals within a reasonable time then they'll get a snack to hold them until I can feed them. My girls have both been self-imposed fasters. Especially the bitch I have now -- she's known to holdout on dinners -- breakfast is BARF, dinner is kibbles. She'll wait to eat until she's sure nothing is forthcoming that is better. I won't play her game -- if she doesn't eat dinner, she gets it for breakfast. She never seems to mind skipping a meal, unless Jojo decides to help himself to HER dinner after finishing his. Sometimes she doesn't care, other times she eats it just to spite him. I don't interfere, there are no fights over food and the dogs are in good weight. I've never had any problems with anyone fighting over food -- ever -- all have been fed in open crates and all have been taught from day one that I can take food away any time I want to (puppyhood training to make sure I can take away food without getting bitten; during the training period if I take something away I give it back with a surprise treat as a reward for behaving correctly). If someone walks away and another dog eats it, I do not replenish the bowl. You snooze, you lose. The only exception is if I'm watching someone else's dogs. Once, I watched a friend's dogs since I wasn't able to attend the National. Her two eldest girls had me but good -- they refused to eat. I hand-fed them, a few kibbles at a time, until they'd eaten their normal sized portions. When I reported this to the owner, she laughed and said they had me well trained. I will definitely admit they DID have me trained! However, I felt more comfortable hand-feeding if they were pulling my leg, didn't want two senior girls going without their food while in my care. Not the first time I've been outsmarted by a GSD, and won't be the last! Kelly Busse Wolfheart German Shepherds ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================