In a message dated 5/19/10 2:14:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, tanbarkgsd@xxxxxxxxx writes: Winners Dog and Winners Bitch DO NOT get them unless they receive BOB or BOS. My WB did also get BOB and I was told she also received 5 GRCH points. Now I am even more confused. I thought only Champions could get Grand Champion points. As a matter of fact one of the problems I was having is that if the dog or bitch was moved up, and had finished within 90 days, they could get the points. I guess you would have to take the words of the owers. If the WB did get Grand Champion points, how could she do so, if she wasn't a champion? Or, can they claim that finished them, and then give them the points? Evan Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================