I teach all the dogs I have, (GSD's and Terriers) to double handle. When baiting, I usually use boiled/baked liver for the first day and on the second day, I usually keep a left over from the dinner the previous night or run to KFC/Safeway and buy chicken thats been cooked. I learned from Mrs. Mary Roberts to "keep your bait pouch interesting to the dogs, this way, it still serves its primary purpose in getting ears". Double handling is different.. when Im mixing food for the evening, I usually start off by making a racket so they know Im about to feed. As Im dishing the food, I usually click my tongue sharply just before I feed them. I do this every night. Not a big deal. When Im showing, if someone else is handling, usually all that is needed for them to "look for me" and get excited is clicking my tongue as its been associated with something good. When JR Alcantara covered my Kerry blue in the group ring, he was being doubled and made some beautiful pictures out of himself. So it does work for all breeds. Mike Lynch Check out the newly revised BlackHawk Farms,LLC at www.blackhawk-farms.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================