From: http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mdryice.html Also use care when evaporating large quantities of Dry Ice. CO2 is heavier than air and will pile up near the ground, so if you have any babies or pets crawling around down there, they'll suffocate. From:http://www.ilpi.com/msds/ref/carbondioxide.html While such pressures are no problem for pressure-tested gas cylinders or fire extinguishers, ordinary containers (soda bottles, paint thinner cans, Thermos containers etc.) can not handle such pressures and will explode and create shrapnel if solid carbon dioxide is sealed inside them. Putting solid carbon dioxide into any sort of closed container (glass, plastic, metal etc.) is exceedingly dangerous and is likely to result in severe personal injury or death. and http://www.anu.edu.au/BoZo/policy_docs/Protocol_for_using_dry_ice.pdf#search=%22dangers%20of%20dry%20ice%22 Read #3 and from: http://www.medicalrefrigeration.com/polyfoam/medref_safe.html VENTILATION Normal air is 78% Nitrogen, 21% Oxygen and only 0.035% Carbon Dioxide. If the concentration of carbon dioxide in the air rises above 0.5%, carbon dioxide can become dangerous. Smaller concentrations can cause quicker breathing but is otherwise not harmful. If Dry Ice has been in a closed auto, van, room, or walk-in, for more than 10 minutes, open doors and allow adequate ventilation before entering. Leave area containing Dry Ice if you start to pant and breath quickly or your fingernails or lips start to turn blue. This is the sign that you have breathed in too much CO2 and not enough oxygen. Dry Ice CO2 is heavier than air and will accumulate in low spaces. Do not enter closed storage areas that have or have had Dry Ice before airing out completely. need I add more? I would expect that dry ice evaporating in a cargo hold could be quite dangerous - 10# of dry ice could certainly raise the CO2 concentrations way past excessive levels.. it lays heavy close to the floor.. do they stack the dogs up high? Sue Madlung - Shadowacre Reg'd German Shepherds http://www.shadowacre.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "RivendellP" <rivendellp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <Rbuffdogs@xxxxxxx> Cc: <Kmgraphic2@xxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 6:28 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: FEEDING RAW AND FLYING > > > Don't know about that, but it gives off gas that can kill --- one of the > things that's killed dogs flying in freight, for example. > > Paul opines... > > Dry ice is frozen carbon dioxide...CO2 It doesn't hurt me when I breathe > it...only when I touch it in it's frozen form...and then it burns the hell > outta anything that touches it. > > Rebuttal? > > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues > ============================================================================ > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/458 - Release Date: 9/27/2006 > > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================