I just came home, so I haven't responded to this, but I will post some information to the list. I'm sure others posted this much and more privately, but it could be helpful to others. DM (Degenerative Myolopathy) develops gradually, so it probably isn't what Chance is experiencing. Usually with DM you see a gradually developing paralysis, starting in the rear legs and tail. It doesn't seem to be painful, it just confuses the dog since he/she can't tell where their hind legs are. One test is to turn a hind paw over so the top is on the ground and the toes are pointing back. A dog with DM won't realize the foot is out of place, while a normal dog will immediately right it. With DM you don't usually see a sudden lameness, instead you see a loss of balance or coordination. The dog will have trouble with stairs and smooth floors, and may sometimes struggle to get to their feet. In late stages, most will lose the ability to control their bowel movements - they simply don't know when they need to go. Once symptoms are apparent, the dog may have anywhere from 3 months to over a year. Their personality doesn't change and they can still have quality of life. Several supplements can help - including gluocosamine, chondroiten, msm, fish tablets, selenium and others. I know there are special studies being done on DM and special diets are prescribed - I've heard some people swear by them, and others who felt it made no difference. DM is inheritable and runs in some bloodlines more than others. In Chance's situation, it sounds more like a back injury. Hopefully, some time and the right treatment will have him back to his normal self! Janice Buchanan In a message dated 4/17/2005 4:44:06 PM Mountain Standard Time, dlauffer@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: I really wish folks that respond to these kinds of questions would post to the whole list. It is such a tremendous learning tool for us newbies. One never knows when they will experience one of these awful problems and it sure helps when you have some knowledge. Just food for thought for all you much more knowledgeable people! Dee Lauffer ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================