Thanks for this information Ginny. My dogs were all tested negative for the GSD DM Flash Test already [some individually and some as part of the studies] - so - are you saying that these dogs *could* be now tested with the *new* DM test for another *type* of DM? Has this other *type* of DM [the Corgi and or Boxer type?] been found / diagnosed / proved to *be* in GSDs? Thanks for keeping up with all of this for us! It can be confusing! Louise --- On Mon, 4/20/09, Ginialtman@xxxxxxx <Ginialtman@xxxxxxx> wrote: From: Ginialtman@xxxxxxx <Ginialtman@xxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] DM DNA test To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 6:19 PM I would like to urge our members to please get the U of Florida Flash test as well as the OFA test. It will go a long way in helping us to understand the Disease of DM in German Shepherd Dogs. The Flash test will be available again in a three or four weeks --Dr Clemmons had a physical move of his lab within the U of FLa -- anyway --We GSD owners and breeders need both of these tests because while the Flash test is in GSD (and not in the Corgi) it is in the DNA location for human Multiple Sclerosis. The OFA test was discovered in the Corgi --has been found to be present in the GSD but is in the DNA location for ALS or Lou Gehrigs disease in humans. The full picture of what we know as DM is not yet known and the evidence obtained by the standard diagnostic tests for GSDM and tissue pathology points to the disease in GSD being Multiple Sclerosis--specifically Primary Progressive Multiple Sclerosis. Please, if you would be willing to do the tests--do both OFA and U of Fla Flash test. Contact me -- I will get the link for the U of Florida to you. The Breed Thanks You and so do I. Ginny Altman, GSDCA Health and Genetics Chair From: "Peter Cacioppo" <petercacioppo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: OFA's new DM Gene Marker Test Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 09:01:46 -0700 Previous e-mail FROM REBECCA: From: "Rebecca Little" <pbgs@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: DM DNA test from OFA Has anyone on the list used the DM test from OFA? I just ordered one and will do the rest of my gang over time(its $65 per test). Just wondering what everyone thought of the test. Rebecca Little My ANSWER: Yes, used it on Cab and got a great result for him. Eagle Hill's Cabernet Sauvignon ( "Cab" or "Cabernet")AKC DN11042402. Cab has his permanent OFA Hip and Elbow Certification: Hips Good and Elbows Normal, received on June 1, 2007: GS-76443G24M-PI (micro-chip); GS-EL20512M24-PI. Cab also received a Normal/Normal on his two OFA DM markers, received March 31, 2009; GS-DM132/46M-PI. I ran Cab through the OFA test for DM (this is the University of Missouri's test) Remember they test something different than the University of Florida researchers apparently. It is said that the University of Missouri people think DM is related to the L. Gehrig disease, and the University of Florida is saying GSDM is like the human Multiple Sclerosis ("MS") disease. Anyway, the OFA test is showing Cab has two normal genes. (I believe it is like "coats", where a puppy gets one gene from the sire and one gene from the dam. Thus, a puppy could be a "carrier" on DM by getting one defective gene from the dam and one normal gene from the sire.....or the puppy could be at risk, by getting two defective genes, one from each parent.... or two normal genes, like Cab). Thus a sire like Cab can only give a normal gene when he is bred. If the dam also has two normal genes, then each puppy resulting can only have two normal genes. You order the DM testing kit from the OFA site. 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