These are some good ideas. I miss the ads that always used to run...the Roberts, Cappy and Gloria, Joan and Donna, Barb A., and all the rest. These ads ran month after month and were fun, who will ever forget "Records Live, Opinions Die"! The lead time was always a problem....puppies were usually half grown before ads came out, so many just had a general monthly ad. I think that the review has done a pretty good job with having articles of general interest. I think that people just don't want to spend the money these days. The return is just not that great. Cynthia Steve Grainger <hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:In the 1990 Review..one handler...had 9 ads..Also major all-breed wins were published. there were 6 memorial ads..there were 4 informational articles, and 3 judges critiques There has been a big decline in judges critiques(why?)..again..no title holders page...which should include new Champions, obedience, agility, herding, and schutzhund titles. I would maybe like to see some interviews that appear in the back of the Red Book with some of the older breeders..perhaps along with some interviews that used to be in The Best Of..a magazine that Gail did. these things don't generate revenue..but are interesting. Articles and features such as the aforementioned..helped fill in the gaps, so to speak ,when Review ads were down. You are correct about websites...however, I personally don't visit that many breeder's websites unless I am looking for something specific..I look at the PC site more frequently for show results,etc. C.Grainger ----- Original Message ----- From: Terry Cochran To: hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx;showgsd-l Sent: 1/14/2005 12:57:11 PM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] DEC. REVIEW 1996 In 1990 I went to the Review to find a dog. In 2005 I go to the breeders website. There in lies the large part of the difference. Terry Steve Grainger wrote: Steve Grainger hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx EarthLink Revolves Around You. Don't have my Jan issue yet..but do have December's, so,went to the book case..pulled out December, 1996 GSD Review...ad rate..125.00 for B/W page.The Review was 58 pages..still the small format...so make it an 8x10 format...you would probably lose some pages. Pulled out a Dec.1990 Review..ad rate B/W..125.00..101 pages. Now in Dec.2004..the ad rate is STILL 125.00 for 1 B/W page after 15 years...the Dec. 2004 Review is only 28 pages..so we have lost 72 pages since 1990. Make note. In 90..there were 3 judges critiques..plus a page called the "Parade of Titleholders" I used to like this page..you got a little picture for free plus a small copy of the dogs pedigree was featured. .never understood why the Review quit doing this. Was a nice little perk for your membership fee....would anyone else like to see something similar to the "Parade" page re-setablished...even if not for free..for a very nominal fee? 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