Yes, Penny, we still agree. That wasn't my point. I rambled!! Sorry. Yes, it is against the rules, but, far from a DQ, like biting the judge!! How about the white powder on poodles and trimming of Schipperke's? It is what it is. I was not addressing the ethics of the grooming, I was addressing the fact that she is a long-coat and she is a breed-worthy winner. Paula Home of Best in Show, Best in Specialty Show, Multi-Group Winning, GSDCA Dual Title Award Recipient, AKC JAM/AOE, International and American Champion, Grand Champion Asgard Harley Davidson v Plamark, HT, PT, CGC, TC, HIC, OFA CHIC #64047 (Hips, Elbows, Cardiac, & Thyroid), DNA tested clear of the long-coat factor. #1 Male German Shepherd Dog in the Country, #4 German Shepherd Dog in the Country, as of 7/31/10 (Canine Chronicles) First male German Shepherd Dog Grand Champion. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Penny & Bill <ketchy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Coats & GC bitch Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 12:59:51 -0400 And I almost always agree with you--you KNOW me; I'm either negative nor a finger pointer. . .but isn't scissoring against the AKC rules? Isn't it changing the appearance? That is what the point has been with me--if this bitch is so good, then show her "au natural." Penny in NC ************************************************************************************************************Haven't several breeders on this List just stated that coated dogs/bitches seem to have the best structure, temperament, color, etc., etc., etc.?? She is being evaluated in the show ring this year; the consensus of many judges seems to be that she certainly is breed-worthy! Let's move on. Paula, 58 days and counting ____________________________________________________________ HR Certificate Online SHRM Approved Human resources Certificate Program. Learn More Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4c66da2d56be26c1268st04duc ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================