AKC also says it, from my understanding it is against the rules since by trimming a long coat people would be hiiding a fault in the AKC GSD standard. Unfortunately, people do it. Some obvious, some not. --- Liane Fossland <lfossland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I thought the standard says there are no "alterations" to > be made and > snipping here and there is part of it. Did I misread or > misinterpret it? > There was a coated bitch which became a champion. What > was her name? > Another one was the dam of a GV, wasn't that the Bear > line? > Lee > > Liane Fossland > Home of Ch. Donar,CD, Loni,CD, Auburn, Kara Mia and Windy > www.steppenwindgsd.com > > EarthLink Revolves Around You. > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Emilie <windvane@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <rivendellp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Kris Kudel > <vomkristallaugen@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <SoilentGrn@xxxxxxx>; > <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Date: 4/7/2006 6:25:45 PM > > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Why Champions-odds > > > > What's this a snip here and a snip there?LOL > > I finished Yankee with hours and days of work with a > groom king, > thinning > > shears, and scissors. You must have a easier way than I > ever found!. but > > they ARE usually the best in the litter. He was reserve > Futurity male PNW > > and Canada. and high Agate obedience 2 high in trials, > for his C.D. > > Emilie > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "RivendellP" <rivendellp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: "Kris Kudel" <vomkristallaugen@xxxxxxxxxxx>; > <SoilentGrn@xxxxxxx>; > > <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 2:50 PM > > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Why Champions-odds > > > > > > > > Paul, > > forgive me as I am a newbie.....I thought long coats > are not to be bred, > > they are not in acceptable standard. ????? > > > > Hi Kris... > > > > No...it's considered a fault of coat. Some people have > actually finished > > long coat shepherds albeit with a snip, snip here and a > snip, snip there. > > > > In our experience...long coated animals tend to be very > good. In many > > instances...picks of the litter in > intelligence...temperament...and > motion. > > I know of breeders who have lists of prospective buyers > who want long > coats > > because of the reasons I've mentioned. > > > > In order to get long coats both sire and dam need to > carry the gene. The > > only way to tell is to breed a dog you believe does not > carry the coat > > factor to a coat. For example...our newest CH Molly's > mother Sachet is a > > long coat. Bred to our stud dog Brando she has not > produced a long coat > > either breeding. Brando has not produced a coat even > bred to other bitches > > who have produced coats so it is obvious he does not > carry that factor or > > gene. > > > > Hope that heps ya... > > > > Paul __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================