Hey All; No Penny , you are not chopped liver, I have never received a certificate either and have been a member since 12/87. My friends have the nice plague on their wall that use to be given out when you joined the Parent Club very nice for puppy people to see when they come in. My AB club gives a pin to all new members when they join, and at the Akita National a pin is given to each enter, which is a nice memento to keep. Maybe the GSDCA should think of doing something like this. Cathy Kelstar Catherine Murch fmurch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================