In a message dated 4/21/2007 11:38:20 P.M. Central Daylight Time, barbmarkh@xxxxxxx writes: Now the question - is what this person did really different from what Carmen did? If the answer is - it's not any different - then should the result be the same? If the answer is - it's different - then how is it different? It would seem that the AKC has strict rules about forged names - can they ignore this even if we do? If someone whose history wasn't as long and bright done the same thing - how would we have re-acted? In your first instance, you said that the original co owner and owner agreed to go ahead and sign the co owner's name. Still fraudulent, but no complainers (who turned them in to the AKC by the way??) On the letter, if I understand correctly, at no point did Lew suggest to Carmen to go ahead and sign his name.....Carmen just did "thinking" it was ok. I think the first instance with direction and the second without do make the issue quite clear when you are wrestling with it. Everyone makes mistakes, yes. So to excuse a forgery would make it alright to excuse someone who signs a check for someone else and basically "steals" funds? According to the law, wrong is wrong. And ignorance of the law does not give you immunity in court. From what I understand also of the AKC, there are guidelines, there are rules, but they are also charged with not allowing an offence under the laws of the country to be ignored. Molly Trillia German Shepherds since 1974 Member GSDCA, GSDCC, GSDC of Beaumont, Life member CKC If you think dogs can't count, try putting three dog biscuits in your pocket and then give him only two of them>>>>Phil Pastoret ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================