I would have the c-section. Is there a repro vet in your area? Is her due date known because of progesterone testing (ovulation date) or by breeding date(s)? If you have progesterone testing done prior to labor starting, you will be able to determine when the pups can safely be delivered, and plan your c-section accordingly. This will keep you from having an emergency situation. You are looking for a number of 2.0 or lower. Barb H - PA -----Original Message----- From: Oak&Carrie Smith <osmith@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Fri, Jun 4, 2010 4:23 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] C-Section?? I have a 3 year old bitch in good condition who is carrying 11 pups and due in bout a week. This is her second litter. Last year at this time she carried 13 ups. We lost 6 of those pups during delivery. Even with oxytocin shots, she as slow to deliver and most of the pups had to be worked on to bring them round. I believe they had detached from the uterine wall and the contractions eren't strong enough to get them out soon enough.I'm now trying to decide hether to schedule a C-section. I work in a clinic which unfortunately is an our's drive from our home. The vets I work with do not generally do c-sections, hough they are willing to. There is a closer clinic, but they also don't do o-sections very often. (and there are no other vets within a 2 hour drive.)One ositive change over last year is that the bitch is eating much better this time and, of course, she knows what is coming this time.). I'd rather not do a -section, but I don't want a repeat of last year. A ny input on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Carrie & Oak Smith ak Ridge German Shepherds edicated to the German Shepherd Dog igners: GSDCA Breeder's Code of Ethics ww.oakridgegsd.blogspot.com =========================================================================== OST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original uthor and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind re permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the howgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER F ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL ARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A IOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org ATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================