Your first questions listed below are best posed to the Temperament Committee Chair, Jim York. The link that you provided below specifies that a club needs to contact Jim York, who will in turn contact a tester for a club. I do remember Bob Penny talking to me about Temperament Testing. He felt very strongly about our Dogs getting certified at our GSDCA Test. Bob knew more about this than anyone and I would still honor Bob's opinion. It is to Bob's credit that we have made such great strides in improving the temperament of the GSD. As for CHIC, when the GSDCA submitted the request to be recognized as a CHIC breed, the Board approved the criteria which was the criteria previously defined for the Health Certificate of Merit program and then also included the dog having passed the Temperament Test because that option was offered. We then established the data collection and reporting procedures to provide that information to CHIC in a manner that could be incorporated into their database. Hope this helps Ginny Altman In a message dated 4/23/2009 7:54:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx writes: So the CHIC requires the TC. Now the next question is do other breed club hold TC tests? If so which ones. Do the certify their own testers? OR do they have to be certified by the GSDCA? Here is a link to the GSDCA info on Temperament Testing _http://gsdca.org/base/temperament_test.php_ (http://gsdca.org/base/temperament_test.php) The only thing it really needs is a list of testers and how to contact them. It was suppose to be done in 07. Maybe I am crazy but how is a local club suppose to put together a TC test when they have no one to call. Those testers are the best kept secret in the GSDCA Club. Terry **************Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and Desktops! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219799634x1201361008/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubl eclick.net%2Fclk%3B214133440%3B36002254%3Bj) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================