There is an assumption that if you linebreed, you are actually linebreeding, if that makes sense, often times you are not, and that is why brackett's theory only works if you are "genetically" linebreeding. My observations and experience with linebreeding is that it works best if you linebreed on a dominant animal, that is a good producer, and when I say good producer, I mean a dog or bitch that is dominant for producing his/her traits no matter what lines they are bred to. Please do not equate "numbers" of champions produced" with being a dominant producer, numbers simply mean there were enough progeny shown that finished. Numbers are NOT a testimonial to dominance. Brackett knew this so when the "Brackett" award was created, the essence of the award is to honor those breeders that have created a discernible "style" of dog repetitively, so discernible in fact, that you can recognize what lines the dog is from BEFORE looking at the catalog!!! A breeder who can create a discernible style of dog understands the art of knowing how to actually linebreed! Since we can't see genotype, then have to rely to some degree on pheynotype. I will use my own dog for example. GV Bull was fairly dominant, if I were going to linebreed on Bull, I would choose a granddaughter that looked the most like him thus hopefully increasing my chances of TRULY linebreeding on him genetically. On the flip side, if I selected a granddaughter that looked like her dam, but not Bull, then there was chance that genetically I would not be actually linebreeding at all because genetically the two animals would possibly not be that similar. What it boils down to is when you look at a pedigree many times on PAPER it looks like a linebreeding, but genetically it may not be a linebreeding at all!!! Christine -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 7/23/14, Carolyn Martello <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Bracket Formula ~ problems To: edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx, dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2014, 8:37 PM YEPPERS!! All depends on the quality of the animals utilized, how they complement each other...and the animals in the pedigree....and MOST important....the LACK OF SERIOUS PROBLEMS in both parents and pedigree! Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.marhaven.com From: On Behalf Of edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 5:45 PM Subject: Re: Bracket Formula My mentor in protection dogs once told me that the most important dogs in a puppy's pedigree are the dam and the sire! Duh! Simple but true Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App ------ Original Message ------ From: dmarc-noreply@freelists.orgSubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Bracket Formula Michelle Graham _vicisheps@charter.net_ (mailto:vicisheps@xxxxxxxxxxx) writes; HI...OK I am thinking about doing a breeding based on Bracket Formula...however it would be going twice the 2/3 formula...both on bitch side and on sires...is that too close &/or would I be defeating the purpose of doing it in the first place...just curious if anyone had done it before and would do it again.Thanks Michelle ---------------------------------- I answer; The things you have to remember about these formulas is that they are a tool for the toolchest not the answer to everything. And that it is important you use these formulas on dogs known to you for maximum success. One formula I use is the X Chromosome factor or Motherlines. I am very happy so far using this as a good tool. There is a lot more to it but If you are interested here is a starter course on the use of motherlines. http://www.westwindgsps.com/motherlines.htm Lissa soilentgrn@xxxxxxx ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. 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